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Business and Marketing Podcast: It's not so Black & White.

A business and marketing podcast with Josiah Williamson and Daniel Woodcock. Real conversations with people who build things, about the calls that never came with a clear answer.

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The show

Most advice gets sold as black or white. Do this. Never that. Running a business doesn't work that way. This show lives in the grey.

How it works

Two hosts who see business from different seats, one guest with something real to say, and no script telling anyone what the right answer is.

  1. 01

    Two lenses

    Josiah looks at a business through the camera: the brand, the story, how it looks and sounds. Daniel looks at it through the strategy: the decisions sitting underneath the marketing.

  2. 02

    Guests with receipts

    Founders, operators, marketers and creatives. People who have done the thing, not people who post about doing the thing.

  3. 03

    The hard calls

    We skip the highlight reel and ask about the decisions that could have gone either way, and what happened after.

Your hosts

Same table. Different hats.

One runs a media company. The other runs a digital marketing agency. Both spend their days inside other people's businesses, which is where the good questions come from.

A Peacock Social cap and a JW Media cap resting side by side on a leather studio chair
Peacock Social, left. JW Media, right.
Josiah Williamson in a plaid shirt, sitting in a leather chair on the podcast set and speaking into a microphone
Host / 01Toledo, Ohio

Josiah Williamson

Founder, JW Media

Josiah is a photographer, videographer and media specialist who built JW Media on one belief: video is the fastest way to close the gaps in a brand's marketing. He has spent years behind the lens for businesses across Ohio, and he plays music locally when he isn't shooting.

Daniel Woodcock in a burgundy sweater on the podcast set, speaking into a microphone and reading from his phone
Host / 02Charleston & Toledo

Daniel Woodcock, MBA

CEO, Peacock Social

Daniel has run Peacock Social, a data-driven marketing agency covering social media, websites, SEO and paid ads, for about ten years. He consults on social and marketing, speaks on branding, and shoots drone work on the side. His take is simple: the best marketing starts with better business decisions.

On set

Looks black and white. Until you look closer.

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Listen

Pick your platform.

First episodes are on the way. Subscribe on YouTube or follow on Instagram and Facebook and you'll know the minute they drop.

Be a guest

Got a story that isn't black and white?

We're looking for founders, operators, marketers and creatives who will talk honestly about how they built what they built. The wins are fine. The hard calls are better.

  1. 01
    Apply

    Takes about five minutes. Tell us who you are and what you'd want to talk about.

  2. 02
    We read it

    Every application gets read by the hosts. If it's a fit, we'll reach out.

  3. 03
    We record

    We pick a date that works, sit down, and have a real conversation.

AAbout you

BYour work

CThe conversation

Two or three topics is plenty. Be specific: "how we doubled our prices" beats "growth".

A tough decision, a pivot, a mistake you'd make again. Optional, but this is usually where the best episodes come from.

Been on a podcast before?

We read every one. No spam, ever.

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